tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37046053322675740052024-02-18T22:37:52.203-07:00SkiingHeritageQueries, comments and responses regarding the history of skiing and snowboarding.Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-54178800108094005902011-05-08T13:11:00.000-06:002011-05-08T13:11:06.438-06:00Notes from the Sun Valley reunions<div class="MsoNormal"><b>While Thousands Cheered: Skiing Heritage Week Scores Record Turnout</b></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">By Seth Masia</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">Skiing Heritage Week, held at <st1:place w:st="on">Sun Valley</st1:place> in honor of the resort’s 75<sup>th</sup> anniversary, drew a record turnout. Well, it had some help from half-a-dozen overlapping events. Running concurrently were the U.S. National Ski and Snowboard Hall of Fame Induction, the Pioneers of Freestyle Skiing Reunion, the first Ishpeming Film Festival, and a reunion of Head, <st1:place w:st="on">K2</st1:place> and Scott reps from decades past. There was also a very quiet reunion of SKI Magazine staffers in acknowledgement of the book’s 75<sup>th</sup> anniversary. </div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">K2 Wet Tee-shirt Contest<br />
2011 Edition</td></tr>
</tbody></table><div class="MsoNormal">Bernie Weichsel, chairman of the Hall of Fame, ISHA board member and impresario of the early pro freestyle circuit, functioned as the chief conspirator. According to his notes, 110 people attended the ISHA Awards Banquet, 80 old hotdoggers showed up to receive awards as Pioneers of Freestyle (plus about 40 of their parole officers and attendants), 582 people sat down to dinner at the Hall of Fame Induction, with another 70 standing-room folks at the back of the room. Rick Moulton reports that the Film Festival filled 2,000 seats at the Sun Valley Opera House for six evenings straight, and 250 people attended the Jerry Awards on Tuesday night. I don't yet know how many middle-aged adolescents attended the K2-Head-Scott reunion, but I personally trod on the toes of several hundred at the Wet Tee Shirt Contest, held at Whiskey Jacques on Thursday night. </div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">How many people attended?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The permanent population of Ketchum is 3,500, which seems a reasonable estimate.</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><b>Beekley Memorial Lecture</b></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">The Mason Beekley Memorial Lecture, an annual fixture of Skiing Heritage Week, was conducted this year as a panel discussion on the subject of ski racing on television. Featured speakers were veteran NBC sportscasters Tim Ryan and Christin Cooper, and the session was moderated by ISHA president John Fry and Tom Kelly of the U.S. Ski Team. The burning question: Why do the television networks no longer carry live coverage of ski racing?</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Tim Ryan and Christin Cooper</td></tr>
</tbody></table><div class="MsoNormal">Ryan and Cooper explained the economics, which boil down to increased competition for commercially-valuable air time and reduced budgets for crew travel. Then Cooper made a passionate case for the idea that a tape delay gives the broadcast team the chance to turn ski racing into a better show. They can select the significant runs, and explain what they’re seeing.</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">During the actual race, Cooper said, she’s busy making sense of what’s happening on the hill. “I use all the technology available,” she said. “I use Skype to call the coaches on the hill to ask if the snow is softening and the course getting slower. Why is the race unfolding the way it is? Then I have a two-hour window to compose the story.” </div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">Part of the problem in preparing a story is that the athletes don’t have time during the season to talk to the press. The World Cup schedule is just too tight.</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">Ryan pointed out that television is all about audience. Alpine ski racing is still the number two Olympic sport for TV viewership in the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">United States</st1:country-region></st1:place>, he said, behind figure skating. To build an audience, it’s critically important to develop athletes with star quality. “Lindsey Vonn typifies the media-savvy athlete who explains herself to the audience,” Cooper said. “Bode Miller had to learn how to do that, and he was unpopular until he did. Athletes today are aware of how much they owe to the sport, and to the fans.”</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">Ryan elaborated. “<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region> is celebrity-driven, and the athletes know it. The FIS doesn’t get it. If they want an audience, they have to focus attention on how great the athletes are.” </div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">Cooper thinks the FIS has plenty of opportunity to build ski racing into great television. “Slalom under the lights, at night, is a slam dunk,” she said. “It’s a stadium, with thousands of cheering fans. What a party! I’m a huge fan of dual slalom. The guys with great fundamentals do well, and it’s a show the average viewer understands.”</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">Cooper is also a fan of Universal Sports, which streams live ski racing on the Internet. <span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">“They also run (remote) Skype interviews with all the athletes, from their hotel rooms – five to ten minutes of good talk,” she said.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"><b>Movers and Shakers</b><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">The annual Movers and Shakers event, held Wednesday evening at the Ketchum Public Library, was emceed as usual by Doug Pfeiffer. In honor of the venue, the program kicked off with a showing of Otto Lang’s 1947 film Skifully Yours, and highlights included colorful reminiscences by Nelson Bennett, 96, one of the original Sun Valley ski patrollers, and Ralph Harris, a longtime fixture in the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">Sun Valley</st1:placename> <st1:placename w:st="on">Ski</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">School</st1:placetype></st1:place> whose drawings illustrated SKI Magazine’s ski instructional features for many years.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"><b>ISHA Awards</b><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">On Friday evening, ISHA held its annual Awards Banquet, honoring the creators of the year’s top books and films on ski-history subjects. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Tim Ryan received a Lifetime Achievement Award for broadcast journalism for his work telecasting major ski races since 1980, including several Olympics and World Championships. He graciously thanked the racers who have worked with him over the years providing “color,” including Billy Kidd, Todd Brooker and his current on-screen partners, Christin Cooper and Steve Porino. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Dick Dorworth, another <st1:place w:st="on">Sun Valley</st1:place> local, accepted an Ullr Award for his book <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Perfect Turn and Other Tales of Skiing and Skiers</i>, a collection of short pieces (reviewed in the March-April issue of Skiing Heritage). The essays (and one short story) reflect on the people and mountains, the lives and deaths that have touched Dorworth across half a century of skiing at the very highest levels.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Stephen Waterhouse accepted an Ullr Award for the book <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Passion for Skiing</i>, the result of the Dartmouth Ski History Project. Waterhouse raised the money to support publication of this history of <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Dartmouth</st1:place></st1:city> skiing, edited the content and wrote the first chapter, which recounts the story of Fred Harris, founder of the Dartmouth Outing Club.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">The Kitzbuehel Ski Club sent a delegation to accept an Ullr Award for <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Hahnenkamm: The Chronicle of a Myth</i>, detailing the 100-year history of the classic downhill race. Half the book is devoted to turn-by-turn and racer-by-racer accounts of every HK race since 1931.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Frequent Skiing Heritage contributor E. John B. Allen accepted an Ullr Award, in part on behalf of his co-author Egon Theiner, for <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">100 Years of International Skiing</i>, a history of the FIS. The book breaks new ground in a well-researched section on early alpine events and the formation of competition rules.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Arthur Haechler of the European Broadcasting Union accepted an ISHA Film Award for <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">100 Years FIS</i>, a collage of film clips drawn from the entire history of skiing competition. The 20-minute film was commissioned by FIS to help celebrate its 100<sup>th</sup> anniversary.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Dave Irons accepted a Skade Award for <st1:placename w:st="on"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Sunday</i></st1:placename><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"> <st1:placetype w:st="on">River</st1:placetype></i>, a history of the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:state w:st="on">Maine</st1:state></st1:place> resort. The ski area opened in 1959, after locals raised $90,000 to build a T-bar, rope tow and base lodge, aided by a $40,000 grant from the Small Business Administration. It grew into the major driver of local business, with 590,000 skier visits annually.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">James Benelli, a veteran bartender, ski patroller and instructor, accepted a Skade Award for <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Ski Tales: The History of <st1:placename w:st="on">China</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">Peak</st1:placetype> and Sierra <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Summit</st1:place></st1:city>. </i>The resort launched in 1958, and Benelli arrived in 1960. He prefaced his speech by pointing out that most of his writing is humor, and that brevity is the soul of wit. He earned the warm gratitude of the audience by delivering the shortest speech of the evening.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">As the evening wound down, John Fry and Barry Stone each accepted an ISHA Service Award in recognition of years of hard work to help ISHA grow and prosper.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"><b>Hall of Fame Induction</b><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">On Saturday night, the week climaxed with the U.S. National Ski and Snowboard Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Carol Holding spoke on behalf of Earl Holding, who revitalized Sun Valley after purchasing the resort in 1977, and went on to do the same for Utah’s Snow Basin, where he turned a small ski area into a world-class venue for the 2002 Olympic speed events. She thanked “everyone in this room for the support and loyalty you’ve given to our <st1:place w:st="on">Sun Valley</st1:place>.”<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Bobby Cochran, Hahnenkamm combined champion and 1972 Olympian, charmed the crowd with good-spirited and self-deprecating humor. “I wrote out a speech, but I’m a physician and I can’t read any of this,” he began. Referring to the fact that his sisters Marilyn and Barbara Ann had preceded him into the Hall of Fame, Cochran noted “I’ve recently heard the term ‘girled,’ which is apparently an insult meaning ‘You got beat by a girl.’ Well, I got girled every day.”<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Muffy Davis, a local junior racer who shattered her spine in a downhill training crash in 1989, went on to win several paralympic medals, a World Championship and seven World Cup titles. She burst into tears while thanking her family, coaches and the community for their support in her recovery and career.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Daron Rahlves, winner of 12 World Cup races including the Hahnenkamm, and Super G World Champion, recalled beginning his racing career on the NASTAR course at Alpine Meadows. He thanked his coaches, his wife, and his ski tuner, Willie Wiltz.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Extreme skier Shane McConkey was honored posthumously for his roles in promoting competitive freeskiing and the design of “rocker” skis, and for his film career. The honor was accepted by his widow, Sherry.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Glen Plake, another extreme skier, has parlayed his film career into a platform for promoting the sport at small venues across the country. In the process he has become, arguably, the most recognizable skier of his era. His talk served as a bridge to the final event of the evening, presentation of medals to 80 Pioneers of Freestyle Skiing. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">The party went on into the early morning hours.<o:p></o:p></span></div>Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-33076438596817278432011-04-22T18:23:00.006-06:002011-04-29T21:38:17.652-06:00Pascal “Pete” Heuga, 102<div class="MsoNormal"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiorS2BTReWOwm6FzaeAQqsLSS5KuTECIBqEPJsSLnlTlUoC7Rqgg6uYTm6MK4q6xx8onSxWRMZRRjtJw_cZWYoqGpRIHc5JvP47zYiFw2G7Eg822r5yIseZlNDlFfu_mor2ZZxoJ5J56U/s1600/peteheuga.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiorS2BTReWOwm6FzaeAQqsLSS5KuTECIBqEPJsSLnlTlUoC7Rqgg6uYTm6MK4q6xx8onSxWRMZRRjtJw_cZWYoqGpRIHc5JvP47zYiFw2G7Eg822r5yIseZlNDlFfu_mor2ZZxoJ5J56U/s320/peteheuga.jpg" width="190" /></a></div>Pete Heuga, father of <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/jimmieheuga.html">Jimmie Heuga</a> and a fixture at <st1:place w:st="on">Squaw Valley</st1:place> from its opening day until his retirement in 1985, died on April 17. He was 102.</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">Pascal Heuga was born to an impoverished single mother on April 15, 1909, in St.-Jean-Pied-le-Port, on the French side of the Basque Pyrennées. His mother, Marie, departed for <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region> in 1919, leaving Pascal and his infant brother to be raised by their grandmother. At age nine, Pascal was apprenticed to the town’s butcher, and thereafter spent his summers slaughtering pigs, sheep and cows, lambs and calves. The work was brutal, and Pascal, though barely five feet tall, became the toughest kid in town. At 14, on a borrowed bicycle, he won the local Tour de Pays Basque bike race.</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; tab-stops: .75in; text-autospace: none;">The following year, his uncle Jean-Baptiste, then working as a gardener in <st1:city w:st="on">San Francisco</st1:city>, sent him money for passage to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region>. After weeks of travel Pascal arrived in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Bakersfield</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">Calif.</st1:state></st1:place>, where his mother had married a sheep rancher named Eugene Chounet. Pascal was sent off into the foothills southwest of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Los Banos</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">California</st1:state></st1:place>, with a burro, a dog, a wagon and several hundred head of sheep. Knowing nothing of the sheepherder’s art, Pascal promptly lost three dozen of the beasts, many to coyotes, but many more to rattlesnakes surprised in the sagebrush. Over the summer, Pascal learned to control the herd, and killed over 75 snakes. </div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; tab-stops: .75in; text-autospace: none;"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; tab-stops: .75in; text-autospace: none;">In the fall, Pascal, now 16, found a job tending bar in <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Fresno</st1:place></st1:city>. It was the height of Prohibition, and a tough, underage kid was just what a bootlegger wanted to work in a speakeasy. Whenever the law shut down the saloon and hauled the employees away to jail, the cops were powerless to hold a minor. Within a few hours he’d be out on the street again, ready to work at a new location.</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; tab-stops: .75in; text-autospace: none;"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; tab-stops: .75in; text-autospace: none;">After a summer communicating only with an old sheepdog, Pascal had not yet learned much English. The bartending job did wonders for his command of language. Unfortunately, the language wasn’t English. Most of his customers and colleagues spoke Spanish or Italian. He lasted through five years of busts, brawls and continual changes of venue, and came out a master of Latin patois. In April, 1930, he turned 21 and could be charged as an adult. This made him useless to the bootlegging trade. Out of work in <st1:city w:st="on">Fresno</st1:city>, he got a ride with a friend to <st1:place w:st="on">Yosemite</st1:place> and applied for a job as a cook at the three-year-old Ahwahnee Hotel. </div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; tab-stops: .75in; text-autospace: none;"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; tab-stops: .75in; text-autospace: none;">Perhaps impressed by his French accent, the Ahwahnee’s chef took him aboard. But it wasn’t a French kitchen, and the boss dubbed him Pete. The hotel sent him out into a paradise of waterfalls, meadows and towering peaks, to cook for guests camping up-valley. In the winter, Pete learned to skate on the lodge rink. </div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; tab-stops: .75in; text-autospace: none;"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; tab-stops: .75in; text-autospace: none;">Late in the spring of 1931, Pete met Lucille Dutton, who had dropped out of UCLA after her junior year for want of funds. Sights set on a government job in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Washington</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">D.C.</st1:state></st1:place>, she was working a summer job in the Chinquapin post office. They spent a year together. <br />
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</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; tab-stops: .75in; text-autospace: none;">In the fall of 1932, Lucille received notification that her position in <st1:state w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Washington</st1:place></st1:state> awaited. She boarded an east-bound train.</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; tab-stops: .75in; text-autospace: none;"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; tab-stops: .75in; text-autospace: none;">Pete bought a new 1936 Dodge sedan and followed. They lived together for a few months, and then drove one night to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Frederick</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">Maryland</st1:state></st1:place> to make the marriage legal.</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; tab-stops: .75in; text-autospace: none;"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; tab-stops: .75in; text-autospace: none;">Arms production for the looming World War II was quickly transforming the American economy, especially on the West Coast. Lucille found work as a secretary in <st1:city w:st="on">San Francisco</st1:city>, while Pete worked at the Kaiser shipyards in <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Richmond</st1:place></st1:city>. Two boys were born, Robert Pascal Heuga in 1939, and James Frederick Heuga, in September, 1943.</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; tab-stops: .75in; text-autospace: none;"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal">After the war, <tt><span style="color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">the couple moved to <st1:city w:st="on">Lake Forest</st1:city>, just north of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">Tahoe</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">City</st1:placetype></st1:place>, and bought a tiny grocery store <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">cum</i> gas station <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">cum</i> post office. </span></tt><span style="color: black;">For Pete,<tt><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> running a store was a simple matter, at least compared to operating a speakeasy. It was hard work, but nonviolent. The store was a natural focal point for village social life, and Pete soon organized a round of community events. His mid-June barbecue became an annual happening, drawing 500 people from towns all around the lake. </span></tt><br />
<tt><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> </span></tt><br />
The kids grew up skating and skiing.<tt><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> In the fall of 1949, Pete started work as a lift operator at the new <st1:place w:st="on">Squaw Valley</st1:place> ski area, which opened for Christmas. Young Jimmie wasn’t old enough for school yet, so Pete took him to work. The ski school director <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=slgEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA15&dq=emile%20allais&pg=PA8#v=onepage&q=emile%20allais&f=false">Emile Allais</a>, pre-war world champion, could barely speak English, and began hanging out in Pete’s shack, drinking wine and gossiping in French. Allais began coaching six-year-old Jimmie.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><tt><span style="color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">Within a couple of years Jimmie was winning local races. Pete and Lucille took turns driving kids from the Squaw Valley Ski Club to races up and down the Sierra. At 12, Jimmie was a nationally-ranked junior, and friends pitched in to get him to races in Sun Valley and <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Aspen</st1:place></st1:city>.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><tt><span style="color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">For years Pete supervised operation of the <st1:place w:st="on">Squaw Valley</st1:place> tram, and every Tahoe skier knew him well. His life after retirement took tragic turns: both sons, Bobby and Jimmie, were crippled by multiple sclerosis; after Lucille’s death, Pete lost his eyesight. But in 2005, he returned to <st1:place w:st="on">St.</st1:place>-Jean-Pied-le-Port with Jimmie, to visit his grandfather’s grave. <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">–Seth Masia<o:p></o:p></i></span></tt></div>Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-54431446810743552742011-02-14T18:33:00.001-07:002011-02-19T17:26:07.959-07:00Tyler PalmerFebruary 14, 2011<br />
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Dear Friend of Tyler:<br />
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<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhvJ80TvGmpKWBI_cwjROUvyDLSBWkSEcSXQG_4KgtJgKE-e2Hnvs4lcI9FW1dxLEao9sl6AhEIxBTbVb-O-L0S_1thCzVU9GNsa_y3AI3BbxQhK8-xodyRhdE3KF2V8u6qPRb7b9BE6ac/s1600/tylerpalmer.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhvJ80TvGmpKWBI_cwjROUvyDLSBWkSEcSXQG_4KgtJgKE-e2Hnvs4lcI9FW1dxLEao9sl6AhEIxBTbVb-O-L0S_1thCzVU9GNsa_y3AI3BbxQhK8-xodyRhdE3KF2V8u6qPRb7b9BE6ac/s320/tylerpalmer.jpg" width="240" /></a></div>We are reaching out to a list of Tyler Palmer’s friends to ask for your help in supporting him in his fight with diabetes and Addison’s disease. Tyler’s fierce independence and pride served him well through a ski racing and coaching career that is legendary but these same traits make it extraordinarily difficult for Tyler to reach out to his many friends and the skiing community to ask for assistance at a time when he truly needs our help. In fact, it was not easy to obtain Tyler’s consent to make this request and he is adamant that any contributions to his cause do not diminish by a single dollar, money that would otherwise go to kids.<br />
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Here is the situation. Tyler resigned his coaching position with the Sun Valley Ski Education Foundation and returned to New Hampshire last summer. He now lives part of the time in his home in North Conway NH and part of the time with his daughter Taryn, son-in-law and 10 month old grandson in Portland ME. Tyler’s departure from the Sun Valley was very sudden and caught many of us by surprise but was precipitated by a sudden and life threatening downward spiral in his health.<br />
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As many of you know, Tyler has had diabetes for years. He has learned to live with the disease although there is no question that hard living in his younger years and the physical and mental stress of coaching more recently has taken a toll. Tyler is considered a brittle diabetic yet he often seemed to be trying to ‘out tough’ the disease by pushing himself so hard and ignoring warnings that his health was deteriorating. This came to a head at a race camp in Mammoth Mt. last June when Tyler reached a point where his heart rate was chronically elevated and he suffered from constant headaches and dehydration. Finally his body shut down and he became physically incapable of getting out of bed. He was diagnosed with Addison’s disease by Dr. Bob Hall after being rushed to the hospital.<br />
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Addison’s is very rare; only 2 people out of 100,000 will contract it in their lifetime. It is a disorder that affects the adrenal glands causing them to produce insufficient hormones resulting in extreme fatigue and muscle weakness. Like diabetes, there is no cure for Addison’s disease and the combination of the two is debilitating. Tyler is now on a lifetime regime of steroids and cortisone in addition to insulin. His health has stabilized although, as of late, he is again not feeling well and recently remarked that he has had some ‘dark days’. He does not have medical insurance, and has not been to a doctor in months owing to his financial situation. Tyler is facing a long struggle to regain his health.<br />
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There are only a handful of experts on Addison’s in the US and Tyler desperately needs to be seen and treated by one of them. He is facing a lifetime regime of drugs to manage these two diseases and the prospect of significant and ongoing medical expenses.<br />
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Everyone receiving this letter knows Tyler well but we’d like to summarize his amazing achievements particularly in the ski world. Tyler’s ski racing career was legendary. As a young ski racer he was known for his go-for-broke style and carefree attitude. He was a slalom specialist who became the first American male to win a World Cup race, a slalom in St. Moritz, Switzerland in 1971. That season Tyler finished third<br />
in the World Cup Slalom standings. During his career he had two World Cup victories and nine top ten finishes. Tyler and his brother Terry represented the US at the Sapporo Olympics in 1972 with Tyler finishing ninth in the slalom. Tyler joined Bob Beattie’s World Pro Ski Tour in 1972, won 5 events and was the top American skier from 1976 through 1978.<br />
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Skiing has always been and always will be Tyler’s life and passion. In the early ‘80’s he transitioned from ski racing to coaching. For the past 11 years Tyler has been coaching for the Sun Valley Ski Education Foundation. He was an extraordinary coach…. knowledgeable, committed, passionate and somewhat perilously, totally selfless. He imbued his kids with a sense of respect for the sport by teaching them its history and how it helped him develop personal values. In turn, he encouraged them to grow with and through the sport.<br />
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Tyler has touched all of us with his humor, compassion and enormous appetite for life. He has coached many of our children and taught them life’s lessons through ski racing. He has asked for very little in return for his lifelong dedication to the sport we all love. Tyler is rich in spirit but not in coin. Now he needs our help. Over the next few weeks we will be following up with each of you to ask for financial help in the form of a contribution to the Bald Mountain Rescue Fund (501c3) to benefit Tyler and/or to reach out to others on behalf of Tyler and ask for their help.<br />
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Please consider making a tax deductible donation to help Tyler by sending your check to the Bald Mt Rescue Fund. Please state “In honor of Tyler Palmer” on the memo line of the check. Funds will be used by the BMRF to defray medical and living expenses resulting from Tyler’s catastrophic illness.<br />
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The Bald Mt. Rescue Fund<br />
c/o Brian Barsotti<br />
PO Box 370<br />
Ketchum, ID 83340<br />
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #1f497d; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><a href="mailto:pstine@dadco.com" saprocessedanchor="true" style="color: #0000cc;" target="_blank">pstine@dadco.com</a></span><br />
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Yours truly,<br />
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<i>Doug Woodcock</i><br />
<i>Kipp Nelson</i><br />
<i>Thom Weisel</i><br />
<i>Holley DuPont</i><br />
<i>Jonathan Neeley</i><br />
<i>Paul Fremont Smith</i><br />
<i>Chuck Ferries</i><br />
<i>Michael Lafferty</i><br />
<i>Bob Beattie</i><br />
<i>Michael Halstead</i><br />
<i>Kiki Cutter</i><br />
<i>Otto Tschudi</i><br />
<i>Hank Kashiwa</i><br />
<i>Michel Rudigoz</i><br />
<i>Billy Kidd</i>Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-63513681944065862882011-01-20T11:25:00.004-07:002011-01-20T12:41:23.701-07:00Vintage ski race at Steamboat: Sunday, Jan 23<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgwXUPIqfRyEUAjbTy57VHbBUQFPagGOvKla4VnxLaFCZdtZ_91MgjGGeB_pIcsCN6RvYFrK1PANQmrpXR6qjS3cSHyKwYisxtmtfezebqo_FHXAec2Tn598U6pPmJqO0WEpP78IAkfaj8/s1600/photo-dur-kidd-vail-1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgwXUPIqfRyEUAjbTy57VHbBUQFPagGOvKla4VnxLaFCZdtZ_91MgjGGeB_pIcsCN6RvYFrK1PANQmrpXR6qjS3cSHyKwYisxtmtfezebqo_FHXAec2Tn598U6pPmJqO0WEpP78IAkfaj8/s1600/photo-dur-kidd-vail-1.jpg" /></a></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #1f497d; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">On Sunday morning, Jan. 23</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #1f497d; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><sup>rd</sup></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #1f497d; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">, at 10:00 AM, at Steamboat Springs, CO there is going to be a Vintage Ski Race! All interested in joining in the fun need to meet at the base lift, in front of the Sheraton Steamboat Resort Hotel, by 9:00 to register, and take a practice run or two. Look for Billy Kidd and his famous cowboy hat. Richard Allen will also be there with his Vintage Ski World van, & possible ski gear for you, but you have to call him ahead of time. Dig through your stuff to find any ‘old’ gear & outfits. But if you don’t have any, call Richard & he can may be able to bring something for you. VSW Office #800-332-6323 & his cell #970-948-0591. After the race they will all be gathering in the Sheraton to hang out, drink a beer, watch old ski movies & maybe even do a fashion show. All of this will occur in the Bear River Bar & Grill. It promises to be a really fun time!</span>Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-68028442338951678242010-12-13T18:21:00.003-07:002010-12-13T18:22:32.588-07:00The Man Who Taught Us Modern Skiing<div align="left" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 3px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 3px;"><em><span style="font-size: medium;">Georges Joubert studied world-class skiers and translated their winning techniques </span></em><em><span style="font-size: medium;">into lessons that recreational skiers could learn<br />
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</span></em></div><div align="left" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 3px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 3px;">By Ron LeMaster<br />
<img align="right" alt="Georges Joubert" height="333" src="http://www.skiinghistory.org/Georges_joubert.jpg" width="250" /><br />
Georges Joubert, a giant in the world of ski coaching and instruction, passed away on November 1, 2010. From the late 1950s through the late 1970s he analyzed and described, in print and pictures, the significant movements of skiing being developed by the best competitive skiers in the world, and how the rest of us could learn to make them ourselves. It is fair to say that no single person has had a greater impact on our understanding of how modern skiing works, and how it can be taught.<br />
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Joubert was a professor of physical education and the president of the Grenoble University club when Jean Vuarnet joined its skiing program in the mid-1950s. Vuarnet was eighteen years old, and had done little skiing before then. After four years of training under Joubert, he was the French national champion in slalom, giant slalom and downhill, and in 1960 won the Olympic gold medal in downhill at Squaw Valley. Joubert went on to train many top-level racers, including world championship and World Cup winning skiers Patrick Russel and Perrine Pelen, and did an ill-fated stint as head coach of the French Ski Team. Although it is commonly thought that Joubert unilaterally fired the leading members of the French men’s World Cup team in 1973, that action was the majority decision of a panel of five, one of whom was Joubert, who cast a dissenting vote and later characterized the panel's decision as a “gross error.” Yet, over the following decades, he accepted responsibility and suffered the ensuing criticism without complaint. <b><i><a href="http://skiinghistory.org/jouberttribute.html">Read more!</a></i></b></div>Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-37369013209173758452010-12-12T21:26:00.005-07:002010-12-13T17:14:57.173-07:00Squaw Valley sale marks end of Cushing era<div align="left" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 3px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 3px;">By Seth Masia<br />
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In November, when the Squaw Valley Development Co. was sold to <a href="http://www.kslcapital.com/">KSL Capital Partners</a>, it marked the end of 61 years of control by the Cushing family of California’s winter Olympic venue.</div><div align="left" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 3px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 3px;"><img align="right" alt="Sandy and Wayne Poulsen" height="213" src="http://www.skiinghistory.org/poulsens.jpg" width="237" /></div><div align="left" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 3px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 3px;">Squaw Valley was the brainchild of Reno's Wayne Poulsen (at right, with wife Sandy), who first skied into the valley in 1931, two years out of high school. A powerhouse athlete and coach in Sierra ski competition in the late 1930s, Poulsen became a pioneer of rope-tow skiing in the Tahoe area, then an instructor at Sun Valley and then a U.S. Army Air Force pilot flying Pan Am Clippers to supply Pacific combat zones. He invested every dime he earned in Squaw Valley real estate. In 1945, after discharge as a lieutenant colonel, Poulsen pioneered new routes for Pan Am. With his wife Sandy he built a home at Squaw, and began looking for investors.<br />
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</div><div align="left" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 3px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 3px;">He found Alex Cushing, a New York socialite, Wall Street attorney and Navy veteran. Cushing and his friends, including Lawrance Rockefeller, in 1948 invested about $400,000 to build a lodge and lifts; Poulsen’s contribution was the 640 acres he owned right where the lodge and lifts were to be built (he then bought another 12,000 acres on the valley floor for future development).<br />
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</div><div align="left" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 3px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 3px;"><img align="left" alt="Alex Cushing" height="320" src="http://www.skiinghistory.org/squaw_cushing_060820.jpg" width="253" />Cushing (left) proved to be an aggressive developer and promoter, eager to build the resort fast. Poulsen wanted to plan and build with conservative respect for the harsh alpine enivironment. A month before the resort opened in 1949, Cushing took advantage of Poulsen’s absence on a Pan Am flight to vote him off the board of directors. Thereafter Poulsen’s business was real estate development in the Valley, while Cushing ran the resort and the mountain.<br />
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Cushing envisioned a vast and varied resort on the European model. He hired Emile Allais as his first ski school director. Allais, and his successor Joe Marillac, made sure that Squaw became a magnet for world class skiers. Top skiers loved Squaw’s cliffs, and its immensely varied and often challenging snow conditions. The steep terrain drew the attention of photographers and film-makers like Warren Miller, who spent a couple of winters there in the early days and helped to popularize the resort. The extreme terrain also produced powerful native skiers like Jimmie Heuga, the Poulsen and McKinney clans, Edie Thys Morgan, Kristin Krone and Jonny Moseley. Meanwhile, the resort became one of the incubators for the craft of extreme skiing, famous for producing talents like Rick Sylvester, Robbie Huntoon and Scot Schmidt.<br />
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Characteristically, Cushing.threw lifts up every peak within reach, opening super-steep terrain that would have been considered prohibitively dangerous anywhere else. Lift towers were built in avalanche zones, and some were swept away. Squaw employees habitually hooked an arm around the chairlift hanger in anticipation of a catastrophic stop.<br />
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In 1954, with backing from Lawrance Rockefeller and the governor of California, Cushing submitted a bid to host the 1960 Winter Olympics – and after dogged lobbying of the IOC, scored one of the great sports marketing coups of all time. The ’60 games were the first ever to be televised, the first with an Olympic Village to house the athletes, and the first to be electronically timed. Television made Squaw Valley a household name, and helped the heady growth of the ski industry through the following decade. In the course of development Poulsen staged a successful fight to keep the Meadow from being paved over for Olympic parking.<br />
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Cushing’s aggressive growth policy drew the ire of state bureaucrats and environmentalists. He was a great believer in “build it first, then get permission.” He was an early investor in every ski lift innovation proposed, and the result, for some decades, was the most efficient uphill transport network in North America. At one point some 33 lifts served 4,000 acres of patrolled terrain, hauling 49,000 skiers per hour. Cushing paid a price: Squaw was repeatedly fined for cutting trees and building before permits were final. The low point of Squaw’s lift operation history was the 1978 disaster when a cable derailed in a wind storm and fell onto a tram car, killing four passengers.<br />
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Cushing acquired a reputation as a difficult man to do business with. Over the course of decades, a number of projects to build lodging at the base area collapsed amidst recriminations. With an inadequate bed base, most Squaw Valley skiers had to drive in from lodging in Truckee and Tahoe City. Despite clearing snow from a vast parking lot, Squaw never seemed to have enough parking. The lot gained a few more acres when Blyth Arena, the historic Olympic hockey venue, collapsed under the weight of uncleared snow in 1983. Eventually, Intrawest Corp. was successful in negotiating a deal to build a village with about 285 rooms in the parking lot, beginning in 2001. Ironically, the village reduced the available parking and actually cut the number of lift tickets sold thereafter. Intrawest, crippled by the 2009 recession and facing foreclosure, sold the village to Squaw in January 2010 for an undisclosed sum that probably represented a small fraction of its cost to build. KSL is thus acquiring a viable resort at well below its original value.<br />
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Poulsen was elected to the U.S. National Ski Hall of Fame in 1980, and died in 1995. Cushing was inducted into the Ski Industry Hall of Fame in 1999 and into the U.S. National Ski Hall of Fame in 2003. He died, at 92, in 2006.<br />
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The new corporate owner, KSL Capital Partners, owns dozens of golf resorts and a cruise line. It’s part of the Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. complex headed by financier Henry Kravis. Its managing directors are two former Vail Resorts executives: Michael S. Shannon was president and CEO of VR from 1986 to 1992, and Eric C. Resnick was treasurer, and then VP of strategic planning and investor relations from 1996 to 2001. Another executive, Marla Steele, was Vail’s director of strategic planning from 1998 to 2007. The company is pledged to invest $50 million in capital improvements.</div><div align="left" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 3px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 3px;"><br />
For the Wayne Poulsen biography, see "Finish Line" by Eddy Ancinas, Fall 1995 <em>Skiing Heritage</em>; <a href="http://tinyurl.com/waynepoulsen">http://tinyurl.com/waynepoulsen</a></div><div align="left" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 3px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 3px;"><br />
</div><div align="left" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 3px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 3px;">Go to <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/squawsale.html">skiinghistory.org/squawsale.html</a></div>Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-53168552393166783802010-11-03T20:12:00.000-06:002010-11-03T20:12:40.410-06:00Query from Maurice WoehrleMaurice Woehrle, who was a top design engineer at Rossignol for several decades, wrote to ask about some old skis:<br />
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 14px;"><br />
</span><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 14px;">As regards Kästle slalom skis, I had no answer from Kidd. I suppose that he does not remember if there was fiberglass in his skis. </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 14px;">Another question about winning skis of the 64</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 14px;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 14px;"><span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1288835801_8" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-color: rgb(54, 99, 136); border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-width: 2px; cursor: pointer; line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;">Olympics</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 14px;">: the downhill was won by Egon Zimmerman with Alu Steel from Fischer. As far as I remember, the edges of these skis were not bonded by glue but fixed by screws. Have you some idea about it?</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 14px;"> </span><br style="line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;" /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; line-height: 14px;"><br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 14px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px;"></span></span><br />
<div style="line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;"><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;">The question matters because Head had purchased the Chris Hoerhle patent on the continuous bonded edge, and was defending it aggressively. Thus a factory like Kneissl that refused to pay a royalty to Head had to use screws to hold on the edges, even if they were covered by the base plastic. Some 30 years ago I asked Joe Fischer about the Alu Steel. He had no access to the flexible contact cement used by Head to glue the steel to the aluminum. Instead he put rubber strips -- neoprene -- above the steel as shear layers, He believes he was the first to do this. So the answer, I believe, was no screws in the Alu Steel, and I don't know if Fischer paid royalties to Head.</span></span></span></div><div style="line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;"><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br style="line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;" /></span></span></span></div><div style="line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;"><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;">Concerning the Kastle <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1288835801_1" style="border-bottom-color: rgb(54, 99, 136); border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-width: 2px; cursor: pointer; line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;">Slalom</span> of 1964, I wrote an article about it for Skiing Heritage, because it was the last great wooden race ski and was used by all three medalists in slalom at the Innsbruck Olympics that year. The ski was of laminated ash top and bottom with a light core of okoume, and a decorative red plastic top skin -- but no fiberglass. Read the article here:</span></span></span></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;"><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;"><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=ylgEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=masia+last+great+wooden+race+ski+kastle+kidd+heuga&source=bl&ots=XEu0ZnMDr0&sig=UlyO_fZxa_KyfpYn_V9IKA73B44&hl=en&ei=peXQTK-BMoWcsQPVsvi6Cw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=masia%20last%20great%20wooden%20race%20ski%20kastle%20kidd%20heuga&f=false" rel="nofollow" style="color: #003399; line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; text-decoration: underline;" target="_blank"><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;">http://books.google.com/books?id=ylgEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=masia+last+great+wooden+race+ski+kastle+kidd+heuga&source=bl&ots=XEu0ZnMDr0&sig=UlyO_fZxa_KyfpYn_V9IKA73B44&hl=en&ei=peXQTK-BMoWcsQPVsvi6Cw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=masia%20last%20great%20wooden%20race%20ski%20kastle%20kidd%20heuga&f=false</span></a></span><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;"> </span></span></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;"><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;"><br style="line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;" /></span></span></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;"><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;"> </span></span></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;"><span class="yiv1082500179Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;"><br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14px;">Followed by Italian dinner at RUSTICO’S</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14px;"><br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14px;">Include your email address for ticket delivery</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14px;"><br />
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14px;">The International Skiing History Association is a 501 (c) (3) organization.</span>Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-67964323560080306222010-10-30T20:28:00.000-06:002010-10-30T20:28:04.571-06:00Jake Moe on Jean Claude Killy<div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;">I just received John Fry's sales pitch letter and the reference to <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1288491824_1" style="line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;">Jean Claude</span>.</div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"> </div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;">And, immediately my mind races back to 1969 - a couple of years before I started Powder. I was one of the professional ski patrolmen on the Sun Valley Ski Patrol. One afternoon, the patrol director pulled Richie Bingham and me into a meeting and informed us that we were not going to be patrolling the next day. He had chosen us to do <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1288491824_2" style="line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;">avalanche control work</span>for Jean Claude Killy in the back country. Killy was starring in a Disney film and the film crew needed to have some pre-skiers attack the slope to make sure that it wasn't going to slide on him during the filming. Talk about being honored with a most incredible project - hanging out with Killy for a day? Obviously, it was impossible to sleep with all that excitement.</div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"> </div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;">We arose early and got all of our gear for the helicopter ride - and, with Olympic Champion Killy on board we were dropped at the top of a high ridge. Over the radio, we heard the <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1288491824_3" style="line-height: 1.2em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial;">film director</span> say - "send the patrolmen"! We jumped off the cliff and immediately were shocked to be in the middle of the most impossible breakable crust that we had ever experienced in Sun Valley The wind apparently had hit the slope hard the night before and turned a perfectly awesome powder field into 'sheet of crust' three inches thick - and a foot of fresh snow stuck underneath. We would get some speed up and just barely start to make a turn and our skis would break through and as a result the hard crust would just kill our shins like ice driving into our legs and bringing us to a complete stop creating somersault after somersault. After falling atleast seven times each from the top of the ridge to the specially built filming platform far down the slope, we slid up to the director and announced that it was no use filming because the slope was completely and totally UN-SKIABLE! "Like @#$%" he said, "I didn't spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to cancel this!" And, with that he waved for Killy to launch into the slope and ordered film to roll.</div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"> </div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;">We had never seen Killy fall in the days that he ripped the slopes of Sun Valley - and, we almost couldn't keep our eyes open knowing that our hero was about to do headers just as we had done multiple times each. To our surprise, Killy blew through the crust with such power and grace from top to bottom that it left our mouths wide open. Richie and I turned to each other with the look that said "Did he just ski the slope we skied?" Later, when reviewing the footage shot that day in slo-motion, it looked as though blocks of snow the size of rail cars were exploding off his ankles and shins. I have never seen such execution in such impossible conditions in my life.</div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"> </div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;">He is definitely my hero</div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"> </div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;">Jake</div>Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-76409123123134670802010-10-28T15:27:00.000-06:002010-10-28T15:27:36.198-06:00Historic storm opens Colorado season<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgtFF2WpmKvck9RILl6piq2R8fY-MczHfdA7zM8Jp0XDYOLYUguz0tUgGqiaPA3fz5GpR7IA9QHxP2b4zQCB85ArLzeNupINJXhLK7Az9iwTZYMOi9M9RkBUXO45GYvMPp0AcMJv7WU334/s1600/coppershovel.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgtFF2WpmKvck9RILl6piq2R8fY-MczHfdA7zM8Jp0XDYOLYUguz0tUgGqiaPA3fz5GpR7IA9QHxP2b4zQCB85ArLzeNupINJXhLK7Az9iwTZYMOi9M9RkBUXO45GYvMPp0AcMJv7WU334/s320/coppershovel.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14px;">Great snow at Copper: From Sunday to Tuesday, a storm of historic proportions pounded across the Great Plains. Its western edge brought blizzard conditions to the Colorado Rockies, with strong winds drifting snow up to two feet deep in places. On Thursday, PSIA and AASI demo team members had clear skies for their final day of pre-season training, and Copper mountain lift operators were still digging out. Midwinter snow on Oct 28: Very sweet!</span>Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-30335281145133419512010-10-25T18:00:00.002-06:002010-10-25T18:00:29.105-06:00Entries for ISHA Awards<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 3px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 3px;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: small;">Authors of ski histories published in 2010, and makers during the past year of films and videos about the sport’s past, are invited to submit work for judging. Deadline for entries is Dec. 15, 2010. Three copies of the work should be sent to Rick Moulton, Chairman, ISHA Awards Committee, Box 97, 109 Moulton Drive, Huntington, VT 05462. Winners will honored at Skiing Heritage Week in Sun Valley, Mar. 31, 2011.</span></span><br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 3px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 3px;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: small;">See http://skiinghistory.org</span></span>Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-76614155784936200922010-10-09T12:34:00.001-06:002010-10-09T16:23:07.130-06:00Stratton photos from Kimet HandStratton ski school director Emo Henrich, and his daughter Benzi, around 1968.<br />
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Frank and Jessie Snyder in 2004.<br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Did you ever use HuxFlux on your x-country skiis? </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Dick Durrance gave me some a long time ago. I</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> was with the rescue party that went up Snowmass Creek with Charlie Houston </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">when he discovered that some high altitude sickness was a heart, not a lung, </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">condition. We used skins but Dick used wax and beat us all to the victim.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><br />
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">This rescue began around 5 am on new year's day which meant no partying </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">for the group. Our wives were not too happy about this. I had a medical book </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">with this story in it but moved and lost it. It had a photo of the </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">rescue group on </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">the trail. Maybe Bob Craig has a copy?</span><br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Also, has </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><i>Skiing Heritage</i></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> done an article on the New E</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">ngland college ski team </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">competitions after the Durrance years? I was skiing for Williams in </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">1940-41 & 42. D</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">artmouth and New Hampshire were strong. Great bunch of guys in those years. T</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">hat's when Percy Rideout put Beat Me Daddie Boogie on a victrola </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">before anyone was awake and the Dartmouth team ran across all the </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">lined-up cots the teams were </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">sleeping on in the Middlebury gym.</span><br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">While cleaning out my in-laws basement I came across a pair of Head "Flexibles" which look like a late 50's - early 60"s model based on the bindings. I have never seen or heard of these. A few questions for you:</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"><br />
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">3.) Is there someone or some place (museum) that might want these? They will just continue to gather dust I if keep them. I'm not looking for $ for them, just a good home.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"><br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;">The Ski Free bindings look like they're no later than around 1954, and probably earlier (I have a pair on my 1948 Northland Hickories). Ian Ferguson, who joined Head in 1955, confirms that the Flexible pre-dates his era. He says it's a soft-flexing ski built in the same mold as the original Standard, and meant for lighter skiers. "It's not a powder ski," he said. "No one was thinking about specialized skis for powder yet. The first real powder ski we made was the Deep Powder, about 1956."</span>Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-35763048902675715182010-09-22T19:24:00.000-06:002010-09-22T19:24:23.811-06:00Lovett XC skis<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhFWUNj-OWE8vSfxMjUqJZxYjjsRI6LjHXDaBGR8sXy9pURmHDNptE4MwcQAlT4v4XMRvDlT0uBQM3No1n3jlHDIbbHdRnVyrrddo-SP1cpZ5AmdAj4niuHbrmKFVNK4MSgSiww85QKexc/s1600/lovettXCskis.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhFWUNj-OWE8vSfxMjUqJZxYjjsRI6LjHXDaBGR8sXy9pURmHDNptE4MwcQAlT4v4XMRvDlT0uBQM3No1n3jlHDIbbHdRnVyrrddo-SP1cpZ5AmdAj4niuHbrmKFVNK4MSgSiww85QKexc/s320/lovettXCskis.jpg" /></a></div>Had lunch with John Lovett yesterday. One of the advantages of living and working in Boulder: From my office I can see the entire history of the Colorado ski industry.<br />
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Lovett began making cross country skis in high school, and selling them, too. In 1970, at age 19, he set up his own factory in Boulder to make what may have been the world's first mass-produced fiberglass cross country skis -- and sold about 2,500 pairs that first year. By 1976 the factory was moving 30,000 pairs of skis a year and Lovett was also building alpine skis for a couple of boutique brands. By then he'd sold the company to Eastern Mountain Sports and was getting ready to move on.<br />
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John has some adventures to relate, involving helicopters and three Bobs named Burns, Lange and Redford. We'll get to some of those stories soon.Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-77823047379922316652010-09-12T15:37:00.002-06:002010-09-12T18:50:54.827-06:00V-Link and electronic speed training<div class="MsoNormal">By Seth Masia</div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.advancedracingcomputers.com/">VLink</a>, a high-tech device invented by Hewlett-Packard scientist Richard Kirby, is now in use by the U.S. Ski Team to improve the carving precision of world class athletes and Development Team trainees. The chip, attached to the ski behind the binding, uses three microminiaturized optical tracking circuits to record movement through space in three dimensions and three axes. In training mode, the VLink transmits an audio signal to a set of earbuds, telling the skier about any sideways drift, to a precision of half a millimeter. VLink records data 6500 times per second, and is accurate to 70 miles per hour. </div><div class="MsoNormal"><br />
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Bill Johnson at Sarajevo, 1984 (Sports Illustrated photo)</td></tr>
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I’d be interested in hearing from anyone who can tell us more about the transducer-equipped skis. If you were a racer or coach who used them, or if you were a tech working with the skis, please give us more detail on how they worked and whether they were effective in improving glide speed.</div>Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-88888053417413487502010-09-11T15:36:00.009-06:002014-12-16T14:05:45.980-07:00The Great Rossignol Boondoggle<div class="MsoNormal">
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I’ve just stumbled across a reminiscence by Jackson Hogen of a Rossignol-sposored junket to the <st1:place w:st="on">Alps</st1:place> in the winter of 1993-1994 (see <a href="http://www.skinet.com/skiing/2009/01/musings-from-the-pontiff-of-powder-vol-1">skinet.com/skiing/2009/01/musings-from-the-pontiff-of-powder-vol-1</a>). Because <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Jackson</st1:place></st1:city> mentions me in the article, I feel some obligation to elaborate, and to set the record straight on a few minor points.</div>
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In attendance were two or three writers plus a publisher or advertising rep from each publication, escorted by the senior management of Rossignol’s U.S. subsidiary, and Rossi had hired Andy Mill as athlete-host. We were supposed to have a good time. <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Jackson</st1:city></st1:place>’s idea of a good time consisted very largely of ingesting whatever fell to hand, and then skiing hard.</div>
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First stop was Tignes. In theory there was a FIS race to be attended, but a blizzard was in progress so four of us (Mill, Hogen and me, and a local guide) jumped on some GS skis and headed for a steepish out-of-bounds hardwood forest on either side of the Les Lanches lift. The upper slopes were a complete white-out but in the trees we could see perfectly and the new snow lay about 18 inches deep. I should have felt sleep-deprived and jet-lagged but it was one of the glorious mornings of my life. I love skiing with Andy Mill – his knees are trashed enough that I can keep up with him, but not so trashed as to keep him out of trouble. Les Lanches was then a double chair, and because Mill and I were well-matched for speed (at least in powder) we sort of lost touch with Hogen and the ESF guide. </div>
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We then toured the new ski factory. Rossignol had built this production line to make the 4SV, a light squirt ski meant to replace the popular 4SK recreational slalom ski in the line. Fat skis were already in wide use for powder skiing, Elan had already introduced the SCX shaped ski and the Austrian factories had their own shaped skis in prototype, so I thought it curious that Rossi had just spend about a million bucks to create a light, overdamped straight ski that would be obsolete before it cooled. </div>
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There was some kind of mix-up over luncheon plans but we wound up in a wonderful haute-cuisine country inn somewhere between Montebelluna and <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Venice</st1:place></st1:city>. Our table made far too much noise, disturbing a dining room full of well-dressed civilized folk. <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Jackson</st1:place></st1:city> showed off his Italian with a loudly-declaimed toast in the form of an obscene bit of doggerel. </div>
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Back at the hotel, we found that our hosts had thoughtfully left us each a pair of 4SV skis and a pair of bright yellow race boots. I’m sorry to say that the skis proved to be submarines, going to the bottom of any soft snowpack and staying there. They lasted one season in the market, then got blown away in the <a href="https://skiinghistory.org/history/evolution-ski-shape">shaped-ski revolution</a>. The boots worked well.<br />
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Related articles: <a href="https://www.skiinghistory.org/history/100-years-rossignol">100 Years of Rossignol</a>.</div>
Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-36118563298088058942010-08-29T17:17:00.001-06:002010-09-22T19:00:15.355-06:00Tribute to climate scientist Stephen Schneider<span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"></span><br />
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<span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;">Read the rest of this post at <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/StephenSchneider.html">SkiingHistory.org/StephenSchneider.html</a>.</span></div><div style="margin: auto 0cm;"></div></div></span>Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-71986613106127420922010-08-29T17:02:00.000-06:002010-08-29T17:02:25.770-06:00Durrance and breakaway poles, 1932John Fry's column in the new September 2010 issue SKI Magazine recounts the modern history of the breakaway slalom pole. But he reports that he missed an earlier development. John writes:<br />
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<i>In John Jerome's book The Man on the Medal, when Dick Durrance was racing as a teenager in Bavaria in 1932 he recalled, "A friend of mine named Hannes Totenhaupt and I devised slalom flags that would stay put when they were hit. We'd take an old bedspring, wind it around a steel spike on one end, and stick a dowel on the other end to hold the flag. I guess we sort of invented precursors to the breakaway poles they use nowadays."</i>Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-39868784376125277472010-07-27T08:43:00.002-06:002010-08-01T18:36:11.006-06:001964 Olympic poster: Who is the skier?<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgiHJb_Oy55MqCks6pcCbR7JueclADqVR0u1o9bKRKaCxUwZ212bv67xl23E8dAnKzX3DjL7f2wI1vknppqVzDOY1x9xx7noE2AyAAid4_hGrbhq98qRjMOA248vSecBrv5gO4A1W6lXHU/s1600/1964+OLYMPICS+POSTER+1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgiHJb_Oy55MqCks6pcCbR7JueclADqVR0u1o9bKRKaCxUwZ212bv67xl23E8dAnKzX3DjL7f2wI1vknppqVzDOY1x9xx7noE2AyAAid4_hGrbhq98qRjMOA248vSecBrv5gO4A1W6lXHU/s320/1964+OLYMPICS+POSTER+1.jpg" /></a></div>Hey, Corky here... I received an inquiry from a skiing fan in Michigan who recently read the article on my career in SKIING HERITAGE... He asked me if I knew who the skier is in this 1964 Winter Olympic poster. I remember the poster well as it was <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1280241197_0" style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: none; background-origin: initial; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; cursor: pointer;">hanging on the wall</span> in the Pine Chalet where I lived during my first winter in 1964 as a ski instructor on the Sun Valley Ski School staff... I dimly remember thinking it was shot by Fred Lindholm or maybe <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1280241197_1" style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: none; background-origin: initial; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; border-bottom-color: rgb(54, 99, 136); border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-width: 2px; cursor: pointer;">Willy Bogner</span>... Not sure, though, and never did know who the skier is...<br />
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If anyone knows, could you please send me a note and I'll pass the skier's identity along to the skiing "fan" in Michigan...<br />
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Thanks and have a good one! <br />
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<i>--Corky Fowler</i>Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-84879352312124436182010-07-25T17:55:00.010-06:002010-09-12T23:28:51.673-06:00Bradley Packer-Grader, in historical context<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgHhMJZe8ndVf97GjFgAReS1VcDDnhsHMBAUiyzfW2IGgSDF_gq4UZbmOLKei43T6tqstFlvr9GT1V5P6X1ZurFNhD1PS9Mf5-IfhqE0QVK1h84L1mIKUfmMeWXKlDPDrAX21_UMOdNw3g/s1600/damage1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgHhMJZe8ndVf97GjFgAReS1VcDDnhsHMBAUiyzfW2IGgSDF_gq4UZbmOLKei43T6tqstFlvr9GT1V5P6X1ZurFNhD1PS9Mf5-IfhqE0QVK1h84L1mIKUfmMeWXKlDPDrAX21_UMOdNw3g/s320/damage1.jpg" /></a></div>Swiss reader Luzi Hitz recently sent us a collection of photos of snow rollers used to groom pistes in Switzerland and France during the 1950s and 1960s. The picture at right, for instance, was apparently taken above the St. Bernard Pass in 1950 (but it may be as late as 1964). This raises the question whether any of these devices predate the packer-grader first used at Winter Park in 1950.<br />
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Repeated rolling did nothing to break up the icy surface that developed under heavy skier traffic, or after a melt-freeze cycle. Robertson wrote “We remedy this condition by scarifying late in the day, creating a powder surface which freezes during the night to the harder snow below. This operation is carried on with our invention called the Magic Carpet, a network of chains and caulks 10 by 14 feet, weighing 1200 pounds, which is hauled over the slopes with a tractor.” Find photos of this device in action accompanying Jeff Leich’s article on early snowmaking and grooming in the Spring 2002 newsletter of the New England Ski Museum.<br />
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After the war, new resorts used pre-war grooming methods. Despite the development of early snowmobiles (and the 10th Mountain Division’s Weasel), no over-the-snow vehicles yet existed with the power to drag rollers through the deep soft snow found in the Western states, and bulldozers were too heavy – they sank out of sight.<br />
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In the United States we generally credit Steve Bradley as the father of snow grooming. Bradley assumed management of Winter Park in June of 1950 and immediately began working with Ed Taylor on ideas for stabilizing and smoothing the snow surface. Taylor, a member of the Winter Park board of directors, was a former chairman of the National Ski Patrol and had a special interest in snow physics, based on his work controlling avalanches.<br />
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Bradley and Taylor appear to be the first experimenters to focus on the problem of smoothing out moguls. At the time Winter Park was smoothing out moguls manually, by sending out teams of men with shovels. According to Jerry Groswold, who watched Bradley and Taylor at work, they tried a number of devices to automate the process, beginning with their own version of Cranmore’s Magic Carpet, a six-foot length of chain-link fencing they pulled down the slope while skiing.<br />
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The gravity-powered Packer-Grader weighed about 700 lb and was steered by a skier. The technique: go straight down the fall line, depending on the blade for speed control. At Winter Park, Bradley sent teams of “pilots” down the mogul fields in V-formation, like a squadron of fighter planes. According to Groswold, they earned 25 cents an hour “combat pay” over and above the trail crew wage. Rig and pilot returned to the top of the hill via T-bar.<br />
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Bradley filed for a patent in December 1951. By 1952, Fred Pabst was using his new Tucker Sno-Cats to pull slat rollers up and down the Bromley slopes.<br />
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Patent number 2,786,283 was issued to Bradley in March, 1957, covering “Apparatus for grading and packing snow.” That year Bradley mounted a Packer-Grader behind one of the new Kristi snowcats just going into production in Arvada, Colo., rigging a hydraulic cylinder to control blade height in place of the original steel spring. Thiokol Corp., then beginning snowcat production in Utah, licensed the Packer-Grader technology and modern powered snow grooming was born.<br />
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<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div>Returning to the St. Bernard photo: Note that this is a slat roller machine without a grading blade, and that the skier behind the roller controls the speed by sideslipping or snowplowing. A note on the French website <a href="http://www.skistory.com/F/domaines/B32.html">http://www.skistory.com/F/domaines/B32.html</a> suggests that more sophisticated powered grooming machinery was introduced by Emile Allais, who arrived at Courchevel in 1954 after having worked in North and South America since the opening of Squaw Valley in 1948. He brought American and Canadian ideas with him.Seth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-17119413351892083812010-07-25T17:50:00.002-06:002010-07-28T09:16:24.674-06:00Pre-history of slope groomingLuzi Hitz writes to us:<br />
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Here some info re groomers used in Switzerland in the 50ties and 60ties.<br />
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The photo 374 of the Slovenian book is neither from Grand St.-Bernard (Switzerland) nor Petit St.-Bernard (F). It may be above Crans-Montana (unfortunately the weather was bad the two days my son was there – so I may check it this summer). However, I met there an oldie who used these rollers to groom ski runs in the 50ties; he was an employee of the gondola owners.<br />
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By the way, the same photo is shown under <a href="http://www.remontees-mecaniques.net/damage.php">http://www.remontees-mecaniques.net/damage.php</a> with as a comment that the idea was brought by Emile Allais, the French ski racer, in the 60ties from the US to Courchevel (France) – which I doubt as already before there were many in switzerland.<br />
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The photo Wintersportmuseum show the groomer (roller) exposed in the museum at Davos. It was likely used at Lenzerheide (Switzerland) in the 50ties.<br />
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I was told that such rollers were already used in the 30ties for grooming roads at Davos and later for ski lifts trails.<br />
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The other photos show groomers used in Braunwald (Switzerland) in the early 60ties, see also the site of "my ski lift friend" Jakob Schuler who collects skilift and gonndola parts and which one day hopefully will end in a museum: <a href="http://www.skilift-nostalgie.ch/galerie/thumbnails.php?album=56">http://www.skilift-nostalgie.ch/galerie/thumbnails.php?album=56</a><br />
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Best regards.<br />
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LuziSeth Masiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09709574919776623992noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704605332267574005.post-35783378812964214052010-06-28T02:01:00.002-06:002010-06-28T02:05:40.873-06:00Whitey Sandeen<div align="center" style="font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><div class="page" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: black; text-align: left; width: 1243px;"><div style="padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 25px; padding-right: 25px; padding-top: 0px;"><div id="edit1574" style="padding-bottom: 6px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"><table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" class="tborder" id="post1574" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #d1d1e1; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-color: rgb(11, 25, 140); border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(11, 25, 140); border-left-style: solid; border-left-width: 1px; border-right-color: rgb(11, 25, 140); border-right-style: solid; border-right-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(11, 25, 140); border-top-style: solid; border-top-width: 1px; color: black;"><tbody>
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His children Donald and Sylvia are - to the best of my knowlegde - still on Long Island.<br />
He was a character and a driving force of the Metro NY retail trade.<br />
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<div style="margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 20px; margin-right: 20px; margin-top: 5px;"><div class="smallfont" style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 2px;">Quote:</div><table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"><tbody>
<tr><td class="alt2" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #e1e4f2; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-style: inset; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-color: initial; border-left-style: inset; border-left-width: 1px; border-right-style: inset; border-right-width: 1px; border-top-style: inset; border-top-width: 1px; color: black; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><div>Originally Posted by <strong>Vassily</strong> <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/showthread.php?p=331#post331" rel="nofollow" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="View Post" border="0" class="inlineimg" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" title="View Post" /></a></div><div style="font-style: italic;">Greetings to all! Is there anyone out there who might have a quick historical reference to the 1932 Olympics held at Lake Placid, New York? I'm looking for a list of the Norwegian Team members. I used to work for a gentleman by the name of Asmund Sandeen, who jumped for Norway. Can anyone tell me about how he did? I believe that he may have been a Bronze Medalist, and I am really curious to find out. While I am but a humble amateur skiier, I did learn a few things from, "Whitey", (as he was called by his friends), and I would be most grateful for any information on Asmund Sandeen, Olympic Ski Jumper for Norway, 1932.<br />
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"Norway took a clean sweep in the 1932 Jumping event (only one hill in those days)<br />
Gold: Birger Ruud<br />
Silver: Hans Beck<br />
Bronze: Kaare Wahlberg<br />
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"Asmund 'Whitey' Sandeen was the owner of the Scandinavian Ski Shop, located next door to the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Manhattan, with two other locations on Long Island. He jumped at Bear Mountain for many years in the late thirties and early forties before becoming an Eastern Judge. I believe he was a past president of the Scandinavian Ski Club, who hosted many jumping events at Bear Mountain over the years. As far as being a member of the 1932 Norwegian Olympic Team, I kind of doubt it, as there were many outstanding jumpers in Norway at the time, and I'm sure that someone would have said something about him being on the team during the Bear Mountain Days."</div><div align="right" style="margin-top: 10px;"><a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=436" name="vB::QuickEdit::436" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Edit/Delete Message" border="0" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/edit.gif" title="Edit/Delete Message" /></a> <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=436" rel="nofollow" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/quote.gif" title="Reply With Quote" /></a> <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=436" rel="nofollow" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Multi-Quote This Message" border="0" id="mq_436" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif" title="Multi-Quote This Message" /></a> <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=436" id="qr_436" rel="nofollow" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Quick reply to this message" border="0" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/quickreply.gif" title="Quick reply to this message" /></a></div></td></tr>
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I have had a look in a book titled "III Olympic Winter Games Lake Placid 1932" published by the III Olympic Games Committee in 1932, Compiled by George M Lattimer<br />
There is no mention of your skier, in any of the skiing events.</div><div align="right" style="margin-top: 10px;"><a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=346" name="vB::QuickEdit::346" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Edit/Delete Message" border="0" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/edit.gif" title="Edit/Delete Message" /></a> <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=346" rel="nofollow" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/quote.gif" title="Reply With Quote" /></a> <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=346" rel="nofollow" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Multi-Quote This Message" border="0" id="mq_346" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif" title="Multi-Quote This Message" /></a> <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=346" id="qr_346" rel="nofollow" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Quick reply to this message" border="0" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/quickreply.gif" title="Quick reply to this message" /></a></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="alt1" id="td_post_1575" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #f5f5ff; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: black; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><div class="smallfont" style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><img alt="Default" border="0" class="inlineimg" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" title="Default" /> <strong>I hope not</strong></div><hr size="1" style="color: #d1d1e1;" /><div id="post_message_1575">When I was still in school and racing I was the cool dude for a while when I showed up on the heel with a Marker (triangular shaped) toe and a regular long thong set up for the heel. I only recall one release out of this contraption and that was in a local ski race right in the starting gate. I must not have tied my long thong properly. In any case, he was a friendly starter and after retying my 8 foot strap he let me go again.<br />
No one knew any better, but you felt safer because it was a "safety binding". Go figure. I would not recommend for enyone to use this stuff anymore! It is dangerous!<br />
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<div style="margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 20px; margin-right: 20px; margin-top: 5px;"><div class="smallfont" style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 2px;">Quote:</div><table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"><tbody>
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The question is, how bad were the old systems with a non-releasing heel? A lateral release toe and cable hold down?<br />
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It would seem it would result in a lot of broken legs, but I suspect it might not have been so bad. Did people keep the toes loose enough that any twist along with the fall would cause a release? Or were the boots soft enough that the ankles bent enough to protect the leg?<br />
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Anyone still take these set-ups out on the hill?<br />
Thanks<br />
Dan</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="alt1" id="td_post_1518" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #f5f5ff; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: black; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><div class="smallfont" style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><img alt="Default" border="0" class="inlineimg" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" title="Default" /></div><hr size="1" style="color: #d1d1e1;" /><div id="post_message_1518">They were pretty bad. A properly set up cable system would sort of release. The old lace-up leather boots did very little to support and protect the ankle, so it was easy to stretch, sprain or rupture an achilles tendon in a forward fall. The toes would, in theory, release laterally but without an anti-friction pad the boot-to-ski friction usually prevented lateral release in most forward falls.<br />
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My first alpine binding rig featured the original side-throw Marker Rotamat heel, which did NOT release in a forward fall. And it sprained my ankle.<br />
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Bear in mind that after the introduction of the Kandahar binding in the mid-30s -- the first binding to lock the heel down alpine-style -- about one-third of the racers in any downhill race could be counted on to finish the course on a sled.<br />
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<tr><td class="alt1" id="td_post_1517" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #f5f5ff; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: black; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><div class="smallfont" style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><img alt="Default" border="0" class="inlineimg" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" title="Default" /> <strong>How was it to ski without a releasing heel?</strong></div><hr size="1" style="color: #d1d1e1;" /><div id="post_message_1517">I have been thinking about something recently, and thought people here would know the answer. Either from back then, or if they go out on the hill on the old gear.<br />
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The question is, how bad were the old systems with a non-releasing heel? A lateral release toe and cable hold down?<br />
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It would seem it would result in a lot of broken legs, but I suspect it might not have been so bad. Did people keep the toes loose enough that any twist along with the fall would cause a release? Or were the boots soft enough that the ankles bent enough to protect the leg?<br />
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Anyone still take these set-ups out on the hill?<br />
Thanks<br />
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They were WIDE for the day, the originals were 93-73-82, while the later versions shrunk to 88-73-78.<br />
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I did ski the original ones (180cm) the first day of my season this year (Nov. 25th). Nice ski in soft conditions. These have Look Nevada toes with Marker Rotamat heels....and safetly straps of course!</div><div align="right" style="margin-top: 10px;"><a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=1593" name="vB::QuickEdit::1593" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Edit/Delete Message" border="0" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/edit.gif" title="Edit/Delete Message" /></a> <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1593" rel="nofollow" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/quote.gif" title="Reply With Quote" /></a> <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1593" rel="nofollow" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Multi-Quote This Message" border="0" id="mq_1593" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif" title="Multi-Quote This Message" /></a> <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1593" id="qr_1593" rel="nofollow" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Quick reply to this message" border="0" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/quickreply.gif" title="Quick reply to this message" /></a></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="alt1" id="td_post_1592" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #f5f5ff; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: black; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><div class="smallfont" style="font: normal normal normal 11px/normal verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><img alt="Default" border="0" class="inlineimg" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" title="Default" /></div><hr size="1" style="color: #d1d1e1;" /><div id="post_message_1592">Nice collection, Bill. The Yahoo would have launched around 1975 and it went through several iterations but basically it was a short, soft, fairly wide wet-wrap foam core slalom ski -- a slalom ski for bumps and especially for softer western bumps. It was Head's freestyle ski.<br />
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Do I see Geze Olymp bindings from '76? I think this was the first binding designed to the new DIN standard so if the springs are good these are still safe to ski . . . So we expect to see you popping daffies on the Yahoos this spring. Or maybe they're Markers.</div><div align="right" style="margin-top: 10px;"><a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=1592" name="vB::QuickEdit::1592" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Edit/Delete Message" border="0" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/edit.gif" title="Edit/Delete Message" /></a> <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1592" rel="nofollow" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/quote.gif" title="Reply With Quote" /></a> <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1592" rel="nofollow" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Multi-Quote This Message" border="0" id="mq_1592" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif" title="Multi-Quote This Message" /></a> <a href="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1592" id="qr_1592" rel="nofollow" style="color: #22229c;"><img alt="Quick reply to this message" border="0" src="http://skiinghistory.org/forums/images/buttons/quickreply.gif" title="Quick reply to this message" /></a></div></td></tr>
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